I know I commented on this post, Dale. Am I doing something wrong so my comment got lost? or did you delete my comment?

Your post really gives me hope for the generations behind me!

My name is Kim. If I understand it right you and Jonalyn met my son, David and his girlfriend Donia at the Little Church by the Sea. Donia gave my wife the book Ruby Slippers which she is reading right now. So, that’s how I came to be reading your blog.

We will just never know how much was lost at the Fall, will we? I wonder how was it to be male or female before the Fall? What did we lose? It seems clear that whatever benefits or liabilities that come with being either male or female are stripped when we are clothed in Christ. But we don’t mourn the loss.

When we are stripped of our flesh and look at our spirits, is there such a thing as a male or female spirit? Maybe so…

As for putting a name or word to it…won’t it just become another word that people imbue with definition that may be perverted as well?

I hope you (and Jonalyn) might visit my blog and post some insight. It’s at
http://preparation4eternity.blogspot.com/

Blessings! Kim

There might be a word that could be coined for the concept of promoting the idea that men and women need to work along side each other, but along with that I think people might first have to come to a better understanding of what it means to be human. How should humanity be defined?

And perhaps as far as a word goes, maybe a word such as humanness or humanity is in need of cultural redeeming in the minds of people for this concept. Humanity in all aspect has certainly been redeemed by Christ through all that he did, so maybe we can/should start trying to help each other understand exactly what that means in a more real sense. The word man itself (more specifically in the English language) would have to be redeemed for some or many simply because of how the meaning and spelling itself is viewed so maybe there could be a better word, but I still think the general idea of the redemption of the word humanity should be something that people need to think about…

Just some scattered thoughts…

~Jenette (now a Cementina)

Thoughts?

Here’s a quote I found in Richard Foster’s Streams of Living Water . It’s from a 1st wave feminist (Phoebe Palmer) and illustrates one of your ideas of tradition preventing women from working alongside men (not below them on the hierarchy).

“We believe that hundreds of conscientious, sensitive Christian women have actually suffered more under the slowly crucifying process to which they have been subjected by men who bear the Christian name than many a martyr has endured in passing through the flames.”

If you reversed men and women for the more recent passed, you’d have a good picture of how secular feminism has slowly crucified men, as well.

Thank you, Dale, for defending both men and women!

For now, I do call myself a feminist but that is only because there isn’t another word. I’d be happy to add masculinist to my self-labels as well as I am not for being a feminist who wants to bash men or to for women to rule over men anymore than for men to rule of women.

Maybe I am an equalitist.