Comments on: Mary and Minute Rice http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html the sparkling connection between, faith, feminism and Christian womanhood Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:02:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jonalyn http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html/comment-page-1#comment-1223 Jonalyn Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:38:42 +0000 http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html#comment-1223 Deborah, I agree that Sabbath rest can become another yoke of slavery for people. However, I'm not sure why you would want to take one of God's commands and examples (rested on the 7th day) less than literally? Do you take other of the 10 commandments less than literally? I agree that sometimes we feel our need of Sabbath more than others. I wonder if God felt he needed to rest after creating the world? Deborah,

I agree that Sabbath rest can become another yoke of slavery for people. However, I’m not sure why you would want to take one of God’s commands and examples (rested on the 7th day) less than literally? Do you take other of the 10 commandments less than literally?

I agree that sometimes we feel our need of Sabbath more than others. I wonder if God felt he needed to rest after creating the world?

]]> By: Deborah http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html/comment-page-1#comment-1222 Deborah Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:10:54 +0000 http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html#comment-1222 Folks can argue Scripture until they're blue on this one, but I don't take a Sabbath as necessarily a literal 24 hr rest. Paul said not to let anyone deceive you over new moons and Sabbath festivals even as the writer of Hebrews proclaimed that a Sabbath remains. In some seasons I think it is quite necessary. In other seasons, it's like I divide the Sabbath out over the week... ensuring I have times apart. That's my take anyway. I think the more hyper-goal-oriented the season we are in, the more we may need the literal 24 hr version. Folks can argue Scripture until they’re blue on this one, but I don’t take a Sabbath as necessarily a literal 24 hr rest. Paul said not to let anyone deceive you over new moons and Sabbath festivals even as the writer of Hebrews proclaimed that a Sabbath remains. In some seasons I think it is quite necessary. In other seasons, it’s like I divide the Sabbath out over the week… ensuring I have times apart. That’s my take anyway. I think the more hyper-goal-oriented the season we are in, the more we may need the literal 24 hr version.

]]> By: Lisa Francis http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html/comment-page-1#comment-1206 Lisa Francis Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:57:24 +0000 http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html#comment-1206 Really appreciated your reflections...yes, I do struggle with resting and what that looks like...and how to not feel distracted by all the things on my "to do" list. Thanks for the challenge! Really appreciated your reflections…yes, I do struggle with resting and what that looks like…and how to not feel distracted by all the things on my “to do” list. Thanks for the challenge!

]]> By: Erica http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html/comment-page-1#comment-1204 Erica Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:16:22 +0000 http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html#comment-1204 Ellyn...very helpful. Thank you! I'll try heading this way..<br /><br />Erica (formerly known as Anonymous with Sabbath question) Ellyn…very helpful. Thank you! I'll try heading this way..

Erica (formerly known as Anonymous with Sabbath question)

]]> By: Jonalyn Fincher http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html/comment-page-1#comment-1200 Jonalyn Fincher Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:32:39 +0000 http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html#comment-1200 Deborah,<br /><br />Dale's cancer has been fully removed as of now, though he will have to be vigilant to keep an eye on his skin for the rest of his life. Thank you for asking.<br /><br />Mellow Roc,<br /><br />Thank you for visiting! I appreciate your blogs title and vision. I'm curious if in your Jewish study you've come across the book "In the Shadow of the Temple" by Oskar Skarsaune. This is a book I've just begun studying with Ellyn.<br /><br />Ellyn,<br />Thank you for sharing from your experience and recommending to me this online article: http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=318<br /><br />for a helpful and balanced perspective for beginning Sabbath observers. Deborah,

Dale's cancer has been fully removed as of now, though he will have to be vigilant to keep an eye on his skin for the rest of his life. Thank you for asking.

Mellow Roc,

Thank you for visiting! I appreciate your blogs title and vision. I'm curious if in your Jewish study you've come across the book "In the Shadow of the Temple" by Oskar Skarsaune. This is a book I've just begun studying with Ellyn.

Ellyn,
Thank you for sharing from your experience and recommending to me this online article: http://www.religion-online.org/showarticle.asp?title=318

for a helpful and balanced perspective for beginning Sabbath observers.

]]> By: ellyn.myller http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html/comment-page-1#comment-1199 ellyn.myller Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:17:16 +0000 http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html#comment-1199 "To Sabbath or not to Sabbath, that is a question."<br />I have been searching for what Sabbath means for several years now, a journey for sure and a long one. I am a mom too. I understand your hesitation and the conflict that comes with family responsibilities. Here is some of my story. Not satisfied with some of the ideas that have come across my path or a list of do's and don'ts in the Bible, I recently began an experiment of Sabbath rest. I think when we can't see how something will/can work, trying it as an experiment can help us take baby steps and achieve delight. I wrote in my journal this question, what does it mean to honor the Sabbath and keep it holy? That is what I am seeking the answer to. I understand that it is NOT to include work. What is work? Abraham Heschel's "Sabbath" gave some helpful insights, the first being that God made TIME holy and it is a gift to us. Heschel's definition of work speaks to that which "recreates space" (even chopping vegetables recreates space). First Sabbath: I decided to start with clearing out my Sabbath day of basically anything that recreated space; I laid around, read scripture or writings that focused my attention on God, kept silent and slept. It wasn't easy. A friend shared with me that we have to allow ourselves the necessary time to "sit in the discontent" of resting. Sabbath takes practice, meaning--do it more than once. In our culture work/business has become like an addiction and learning to Sabbath--well, it's like going through detox., it will make you antsy. I felt that way the first day; I even got a headache. I paused and asked questions, what worked, (not the best choice of word) and what didn't. BTW: This was my experiment and some "worky" things got done by my husband and kids on their own initiative and to meet their own needs; they since have joined the experiment. Second Sabbath: This day I added some music to the mix, was conscious of the little things tempting me, like the dishes that set undone, the laundry that hadn't been folded. The experiment includes a lot of observing and noting what is going on, or not, around me and inside me. Sabbath is about trusting God in time and for time. When I run into things that would sure be nice to do or get done, I mentally say, I can trust God for time to do or think about that another day. Third Sabbath: There is an element of preparation to the Sabbath. I am becoming aware that this extra preparation is ordering my choices in the other six days of the week as well as my trust in God for time there too. This has been an additional gift. In the wilderness the Israelites had to pick up an extra days worth of manna, I have come up with Sabbath Soup. It is in a pot, in the fridge, the night before and that is what is available for food on Sabbath (maybe a special bread too). Even giving our bodies a rest from the "3 square meals a day" can be good. Two Sabbaths ago, I had intended to make BB Muffins for breakfast at the request of my husband, but didn't get to it. When the morning rolled around and he asked about them, I offered to get up and make them...he said, "No, there are other things to eat around here." The respect of the Sabbath and what makes it holy is growing in our home. It's really cool. As I mentioned, my family is in on the experiment now too. We are only at the beginning of this, we don't have it all figured out, we are talking about it along the way, but for me one thing is sure, this is some thing that we GET to do, more than something that is expected of us. It is becoming a DELIGHT, please read Isaiah 58:13-14 NIV to find the reward in all this and be encouraged. If you'd like to hear more or ask more questions, Jonalyn can hook us up. "To Sabbath or not to Sabbath, that is a question."
I have been searching for what Sabbath means for several years now, a journey for sure and a long one. I am a mom too. I understand your hesitation and the conflict that comes with family responsibilities. Here is some of my story. Not satisfied with some of the ideas that have come across my path or a list of do's and don'ts in the Bible, I recently began an experiment of Sabbath rest. I think when we can't see how something will/can work, trying it as an experiment can help us take baby steps and achieve delight. I wrote in my journal this question, what does it mean to honor the Sabbath and keep it holy? That is what I am seeking the answer to. I understand that it is NOT to include work. What is work? Abraham Heschel's "Sabbath" gave some helpful insights, the first being that God made TIME holy and it is a gift to us. Heschel's definition of work speaks to that which "recreates space" (even chopping vegetables recreates space). First Sabbath: I decided to start with clearing out my Sabbath day of basically anything that recreated space; I laid around, read scripture or writings that focused my attention on God, kept silent and slept. It wasn't easy. A friend shared with me that we have to allow ourselves the necessary time to "sit in the discontent" of resting. Sabbath takes practice, meaning–do it more than once. In our culture work/business has become like an addiction and learning to Sabbath–well, it's like going through detox., it will make you antsy. I felt that way the first day; I even got a headache. I paused and asked questions, what worked, (not the best choice of word) and what didn't. BTW: This was my experiment and some "worky" things got done by my husband and kids on their own initiative and to meet their own needs; they since have joined the experiment. Second Sabbath: This day I added some music to the mix, was conscious of the little things tempting me, like the dishes that set undone, the laundry that hadn't been folded. The experiment includes a lot of observing and noting what is going on, or not, around me and inside me. Sabbath is about trusting God in time and for time. When I run into things that would sure be nice to do or get done, I mentally say, I can trust God for time to do or think about that another day. Third Sabbath: There is an element of preparation to the Sabbath. I am becoming aware that this extra preparation is ordering my choices in the other six days of the week as well as my trust in God for time there too. This has been an additional gift. In the wilderness the Israelites had to pick up an extra days worth of manna, I have come up with Sabbath Soup. It is in a pot, in the fridge, the night before and that is what is available for food on Sabbath (maybe a special bread too). Even giving our bodies a rest from the "3 square meals a day" can be good. Two Sabbaths ago, I had intended to make BB Muffins for breakfast at the request of my husband, but didn't get to it. When the morning rolled around and he asked about them, I offered to get up and make them…he said, "No, there are other things to eat around here." The respect of the Sabbath and what makes it holy is growing in our home. It's really cool. As I mentioned, my family is in on the experiment now too. We are only at the beginning of this, we don't have it all figured out, we are talking about it along the way, but for me one thing is sure, this is some thing that we GET to do, more than something that is expected of us. It is becoming a DELIGHT, please read Isaiah 58:13-14 NIV to find the reward in all this and be encouraged. If you'd like to hear more or ask more questions, Jonalyn can hook us up.

]]> By: Lindsey http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html/comment-page-1#comment-1198 Lindsey Sun, 10 Jan 2010 04:35:02 +0000 http://soulation.org/jonalynblog/2009/12/mary-and-minute-rice.html#comment-1198 Many thanks, Jonalyn, for these musings both beautiful & convicting. It's past Christmas now, but I've been feeling a bit frantic as I contemplate the new year, a new season of life, and all the changes I need/want/ought to make. Forgive me, Lord, for again taking on expectations not Your own! Thanks for the reminder, friend. May your pre-labor travels birth lasting fruit in line with Mary's. :-)<br /><br />With love,<br />Lindsey Many thanks, Jonalyn, for these musings both beautiful & convicting. It's past Christmas now, but I've been feeling a bit frantic as I contemplate the new year, a new season of life, and all the changes I need/want/ought to make. Forgive me, Lord, for again taking on expectations not Your own! Thanks for the reminder, friend. May your pre-labor travels birth lasting fruit in line with Mary's. :-)

With love,
Lindsey

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